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		<title>By: Poll: Americans Don&#8217;t Think More Drilling Will Lower Gas Prices : Red, Green, and Blue</title>
		<link>http://redgreenandblue.org/2008/07/04/americans-want-to-drill/comment-page-1/#comment-15505</link>
		<dc:creator>Poll: Americans Don&#8217;t Think More Drilling Will Lower Gas Prices : Red, Green, and Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 04:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Americans Want to Drill&#8221; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Don&#8217;t Be Fueli</title>
		<link>http://redgreenandblue.org/2008/07/04/americans-want-to-drill/comment-page-1/#comment-5218</link>
		<dc:creator>Don&#8217;t Be Fueli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But here&#8217;s the half-empty: offshore drilling is not a solution, it&#8217;s not even a quick fix - it&#8217;s a mistake, plain and simple. The only thing it has to offer is false hope and more environmental damage.[...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] But here&rsquo;s the half-empty: offshore drilling is not a solution, it&rsquo;s not even a quick fix &#8211; it&rsquo;s a mistake, plain and simple. The only thing it has to offer is false hope and more environmental damage.[...] </p>
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		<title>By: Georgian Situation Continues the Quest for The Prize of Oil, Money and Power : Red, Green, and Blue</title>
		<link>http://redgreenandblue.org/2008/07/04/americans-want-to-drill/comment-page-1/#comment-5015</link>
		<dc:creator>Georgian Situation Continues the Quest for The Prize of Oil, Money and Power : Red, Green, and Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Americans Want to Drill [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pelosi is about to blink. - Page 2</title>
		<link>http://redgreenandblue.org/2008/07/04/americans-want-to-drill/comment-page-1/#comment-4581</link>
		<dc:creator>Pelosi is about to blink. - Page 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] even at the expense of the environment  73% favor more offshore drilling for natural gas and oil  link    __________________ Osama: no we can&#039;t [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] even at the expense of the environment  73% favor more offshore drilling for natural gas and oil  link    __________________ Osama: no we can&#8217;t [...]</p>
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		<title>By: anonomus</title>
		<link>http://redgreenandblue.org/2008/07/04/americans-want-to-drill/comment-page-1/#comment-4587</link>
		<dc:creator>anonomus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>drill, drill drill for oil now bush rocks..... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>drill, drill drill for oil now bush rocks&#8230;.. </p>
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		<title>By: Offshore Drilling and a 10 year plan : Red, Green, and Blue</title>
		<link>http://redgreenandblue.org/2008/07/04/americans-want-to-drill/comment-page-1/#comment-3775</link>
		<dc:creator>Offshore Drilling and a 10 year plan : Red, Green, and Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 05:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in favor of opening new areas for drilling. A recent CNN Opinion Poll and a Gallup poll show that American&#8217;s want to drill. Why? Do people really believe that the price of gas would decrease immediately? Are we, as [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in favor of opening new areas for drilling. A recent CNN Opinion Poll and a Gallup poll show that American&#8217;s want to drill. Why? Do people really believe that the price of gas would decrease immediately? Are we, as [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Americans want offshore drilling? &#171; greener loudoun</title>
		<link>http://redgreenandblue.org/2008/07/04/americans-want-to-drill/comment-page-1/#comment-3689</link>
		<dc:creator>Americans want offshore drilling? &#171; greener loudoun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And, this from Red GreenandBlue [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Daryl</title>
		<link>http://redgreenandblue.org/2008/07/04/americans-want-to-drill/comment-page-1/#comment-3614</link>
		<dc:creator>Daryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article has it right. Nobody says we can drill our way out immediately or long term, that is a ridiculous position to start from. It has to be part of a combined strategy, to attempt an energy revolution without any energy to power the transformation is a fools errand and shows how short-sighted we are and how we got in this mess to begin with.

In 10 years while T.Boone is paying 500% more for the wind turbines from China then he is today because of energy and demand (we cannot produce them here because the cost would be twice as much),and there is $25.00/gallon diesel fuel for the equipment to erect them.

Gasoline will be $30.00 gallon, not just because of crude supply but also the reduction in gasoline refining overseas for export. Local refining will not meet 50% of demand as refinieries will be closed because of constrained credit markets and low refining margins will drive companies under.

There is a huge shortage of steel for the wind towers because metallurgical coal is $1,000.00 a ton because of global demand and huge increases in recovery costs and transportation will add 50% more, the blade factories yards are full of product they cannot ship to the site because the transportation system will have collapsed to where only food and durables are transported regularily, we will be at 10-12% renewables from all sources (this is based on demand growth eating away at installed capacity and older facility retirements).

Oil distillate supplies will be gone and with them all the products derived from them, like Lithium/Ion Electric Car Battery Casings, tires, high impact plastics, modern textiles and medical supplies.

It is not Just the OIL

Natural Gas will be $200 bbl equivilent, since we have very few LNG capable ports and developed sources in NA will be playing out, old T.Boone will be putting all the excess over home heating into his company vehicles tanks. 

Electricity from wind will be 4.00+ Kwh  just as 20% of the population turns to electric heating because of the NG prices. As the implemtation costs of renewables rise exponentially so will the consumer price. 

The oil and gas from the OCS and Alaska will arrive along with coal to liquids and Nuclear Power to power the rest of the process which will play out over 40 more years.

Then we retire the remaining fossil fuels by capping the wells, tearing down the pipelines, closing the mines and Nuclear Plants as we implement more and more renewables.

That is how we get there from here. It will hurt bad and probably bring the country to its knees in a economic sense, with the costs of social services bringing taxation to levels undreamed of, before we recover about 1/2 the way (25 years) through the process.

On the environment front we are going to have to accept that we are going to burn fossil fuels for 50 more years in some form. Accept it and move on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article has it right. Nobody says we can drill our way out immediately or long term, that is a ridiculous position to start from. It has to be part of a combined strategy, to attempt an energy revolution without any energy to power the transformation is a fools errand and shows how short-sighted we are and how we got in this mess to begin with.</p>
<p>In 10 years while T.Boone is paying 500% more for the wind turbines from China then he is today because of energy and demand (we cannot produce them here because the cost would be twice as much),and there is $25.00/gallon diesel fuel for the equipment to erect them.</p>
<p>Gasoline will be $30.00 gallon, not just because of crude supply but also the reduction in gasoline refining overseas for export. Local refining will not meet 50% of demand as refinieries will be closed because of constrained credit markets and low refining margins will drive companies under.</p>
<p>There is a huge shortage of steel for the wind towers because metallurgical coal is $1,000.00 a ton because of global demand and huge increases in recovery costs and transportation will add 50% more, the blade factories yards are full of product they cannot ship to the site because the transportation system will have collapsed to where only food and durables are transported regularily, we will be at 10-12% renewables from all sources (this is based on demand growth eating away at installed capacity and older facility retirements).</p>
<p>Oil distillate supplies will be gone and with them all the products derived from them, like Lithium/Ion Electric Car Battery Casings, tires, high impact plastics, modern textiles and medical supplies.</p>
<p>It is not Just the OIL</p>
<p>Natural Gas will be $200 bbl equivilent, since we have very few LNG capable ports and developed sources in NA will be playing out, old T.Boone will be putting all the excess over home heating into his company vehicles tanks. </p>
<p>Electricity from wind will be 4.00+ Kwh  just as 20% of the population turns to electric heating because of the NG prices. As the implemtation costs of renewables rise exponentially so will the consumer price. </p>
<p>The oil and gas from the OCS and Alaska will arrive along with coal to liquids and Nuclear Power to power the rest of the process which will play out over 40 more years.</p>
<p>Then we retire the remaining fossil fuels by capping the wells, tearing down the pipelines, closing the mines and Nuclear Plants as we implement more and more renewables.</p>
<p>That is how we get there from here. It will hurt bad and probably bring the country to its knees in a economic sense, with the costs of social services bringing taxation to levels undreamed of, before we recover about 1/2 the way (25 years) through the process.</p>
<p>On the environment front we are going to have to accept that we are going to burn fossil fuels for 50 more years in some form. Accept it and move on.</p>
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		<title>By: Packeryman</title>
		<link>http://redgreenandblue.org/2008/07/04/americans-want-to-drill/comment-page-1/#comment-3496</link>
		<dc:creator>Packeryman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drilling is not the answer, listen to oil man Pickens, he says we cannot drill our way out of this crisis. This issue has been pushed by the white house and the right wing AM radio shock jocks. McCain is not the man of our times. His position on drilling and many other issues is out of tune with the American people and in line with corporate America. Check out this article: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wclt.com/news/special/politics19810.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.wclt.com/news/special/politics19810.ht...&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drilling is not the answer, listen to oil man Pickens, he says we cannot drill our way out of this crisis. This issue has been pushed by the white house and the right wing AM radio shock jocks. McCain is not the man of our times. His position on drilling and many other issues is out of tune with the American people and in line with corporate America. Check out this article: <a href="http://www.wclt.com/news/special/politics19810.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.wclt.com/news/special/politics19810.ht" rel="nofollow">http://www.wclt.com/news/special/politics19810.ht</a>&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Solving Energy Crisis Demands a Sustained Effort : Red, Green, and Blue</title>
		<link>http://redgreenandblue.org/2008/07/04/americans-want-to-drill/comment-page-1/#comment-3340</link>
		<dc:creator>Solving Energy Crisis Demands a Sustained Effort : Red, Green, and Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Americans Want to Drill It’s Time to Start Paying Attention to John McCain’s Ideas on Climate Change Addiction to Oil is not a Good Negotiation Position White House Newsflash: Global Warming VERY LIKELY Caused by Human   Tags: endurance, energy solutions, nuclear, sustainable  Add a comment or question Recommend this post   Share/Email  Stumble It   &#171; Previous post      Other Views from Red, Green, and Blue [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Americans Want to Drill It’s Time to Start Paying Attention to John McCain’s Ideas on Climate Change Addiction to Oil is not a Good Negotiation Position White House Newsflash: Global Warming VERY LIKELY Caused by Human   Tags: endurance, energy solutions, nuclear, sustainable  Add a comment or question Recommend this post   Share/Email  Stumble It   &laquo; Previous post      Other Views from Red, Green, and Blue [...]</p>
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