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	<title>Comments on: Brazilian Ethanol &#8211; Is It More Efficient or Less Mechanized</title>
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		<title>By: What does Green Mean? &#187; Yesteryear&#8217;s Iowa</title>
		<link>http://redgreenandblue.org/2008/07/28/brazilian-ethanol-is-it-more-efficient-or-less-mechanized/comment-page-1/#comment-149737</link>
		<dc:creator>What does Green Mean? &#187; Yesteryear&#8217;s Iowa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 15:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are writing to make you aware that we do not support an extension of either the 54 cent-per-gallon tariff on ethanol imports or the 45 cent-per-gallon subsidy for blending ethanol into gasoline. These provisions are fiscally [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Leandro Moraes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leandro Moraes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 06:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The production of ethanol is concentrated in S&#227;o Paulo. Far from large forest areas (Amazonia). Poor people need to work, if you do not sell the ethanol, they are hungry. You know what hunger is? Do not try to imagine, you do not know. Nature is important but also the population. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The production of ethanol is concentrated in S&atilde;o Paulo. Far from large forest areas (Amazonia). Poor people need to work, if you do not sell the ethanol, they are hungry. You know what hunger is? Do not try to imagine, you do not know. Nature is important but also the population. </p>
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		<title>By: US Dept of Energy and Brazil to Commercialize Biofuels : Red, Green, and Blue</title>
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		<dc:creator>US Dept of Energy and Brazil to Commercialize Biofuels : Red, Green, and Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and sustainability analysis from lignocellulosic biomass and evaluation of intermediate blends of ethanol and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Outside the box</title>
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		<dc:creator>Outside the box</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#180;re considering only production process. 
 
Ethanol gives more energy than Corn </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&acute;re considering only production process.</p>
<p>Ethanol gives more energy than Corn </p>
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		<title>By: US Public Has Zero Desire for Brazil&#8217;s Ethanol; Should It? : EcoWorldly</title>
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		<dc:creator>US Public Has Zero Desire for Brazil&#8217;s Ethanol; Should It? : EcoWorldly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 05:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Brazilian Ethanol - Is It More Efficient or Less Mechanized [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rod Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>factchecker: 
 
Thank you for your comments. Of course, it is always easy to interpret statistics in several ways, especially if viewed with a tight lens and a narrow focus. Here is a quote from the USDA Acreage Report dated June 30, 2008. I think that the picture is slightly different from what you implied by the comment that &quot;More acres are not being planted to corn.&quot; 
 
&lt;i&gt;&quot;Corn planted area for all purposes is estimated at 87.3 million acres, down 7 percent from last year.  Despite the decrease, corn planted acreage is the  
second highest since 1946, behind last year&#039;s total of 93.6 million acres.  Growers expect to harvest 78.9 million acres for grain, down 9 percent from 2007.  If realized, this would be the second highest since 1944, behind last year.  Farmers increased corn plantings 1.31 million acres from their March intentions.  Planting got off to a slow start across the Corn Belt, Ohio Valley, and the northern half of the Great Plains as frequent precipitation and cool temperatures during March and April prevented spring planting preparations.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 
 
I have some difficulty with your comment &quot;Why are all the major food manufacturing and retail grocery companies reporting quarter after quarter of record profits.&quot; I took a quick look at Tyson, Safeway, and Kroger. None of them look like they are reporting record profits. In fact, here is a quote from a Marketwatch report from July 28 regarding Tyson Foods 
 
&lt;i&gt;&quot;Chicken, beef and pork producer Tyson Foods Inc. reported Monday that the soaring price of feed continued to hurt business in the latest quarter, triggering a nearly-6% drop in its share price in afternoon trade. 
 
Tyson (TSN) said grain costs were up $140 million compared with the year-ago quarter, pushing its chicken segment to a loss of $44 million.  
 
Grain prices are expected to total $550 million more for the full year than they did in fiscal 2007, which means Tyson&#039;s chicken segment won&#039;t turn a profit for the fiscal fourth quarter, either, the company said.&lt;/i&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>factchecker:</p>
<p>Thank you for your comments. Of course, it is always easy to interpret statistics in several ways, especially if viewed with a tight lens and a narrow focus. Here is a quote from the USDA Acreage Report dated June 30, 2008. I think that the picture is slightly different from what you implied by the comment that &quot;More acres are not being planted to corn.&quot;</p>
<p><i>&quot;Corn planted area for all purposes is estimated at 87.3 million acres, down 7 percent from last year.  Despite the decrease, corn planted acreage is the </p>
<p>second highest since 1946, behind last year&#039;s total of 93.6 million acres.  Growers expect to harvest 78.9 million acres for grain, down 9 percent from 2007.  If realized, this would be the second highest since 1944, behind last year.  Farmers increased corn plantings 1.31 million acres from their March intentions.  Planting got off to a slow start across the Corn Belt, Ohio Valley, and the northern half of the Great Plains as frequent precipitation and cool temperatures during March and April prevented spring planting preparations.&quot;</i></p>
<p>I have some difficulty with your comment &quot;Why are all the major food manufacturing and retail grocery companies reporting quarter after quarter of record profits.&quot; I took a quick look at Tyson, Safeway, and Kroger. None of them look like they are reporting record profits. In fact, here is a quote from a Marketwatch report from July 28 regarding Tyson Foods</p>
<p><i>&quot;Chicken, beef and pork producer Tyson Foods Inc. reported Monday that the soaring price of feed continued to hurt business in the latest quarter, triggering a nearly-6% drop in its share price in afternoon trade.</p>
<p>Tyson (TSN) said grain costs were up $140 million compared with the year-ago quarter, pushing its chicken segment to a loss of $44 million. </p>
<p>Grain prices are expected to total $550 million more for the full year than they did in fiscal 2007, which means Tyson&#039;s chicken segment won&#039;t turn a profit for the fiscal fourth quarter, either, the company said.</i> </p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article, Rod. Many proponents of biofuel tend to look only at the system of production in the US and are blind to the deforestation and poor labor conditions of biofuel agricultural practices in Latin America. Of course, many products involve exploitive labor, but given the other alternative fuel types - namely electric - that don&#039;t involve these harmful processes, it seems very foolhardy to continue pushing biofuel development.  
 
The food factor has received a lot of press, and been dismissed by some credits, but I&#039;m glad you also brought up the ecological effects of growing biofuel crops. With continuing topsoil depletion and the overuse of agricultural chemicals, we could see an environment in the Amazon pretty messed up from biofuel agriculture if we&#039;re not careful (See: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.brightfuture.us/new/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=157&amp;Itemid=71&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Great Biofuel Hoax of 2008&lt;/a&gt;). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article, Rod. Many proponents of biofuel tend to look only at the system of production in the US and are blind to the deforestation and poor labor conditions of biofuel agricultural practices in Latin America. Of course, many products involve exploitive labor, but given the other alternative fuel types &#8211; namely electric &#8211; that don&#039;t involve these harmful processes, it seems very foolhardy to continue pushing biofuel development. </p>
<p>The food factor has received a lot of press, and been dismissed by some credits, but I&#039;m glad you also brought up the ecological effects of growing biofuel crops. With continuing topsoil depletion and the overuse of agricultural chemicals, we could see an environment in the Amazon pretty messed up from biofuel agriculture if we&#039;re not careful (See: <a href="http://www.brightfuture.us/new/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=157&amp;Itemid=71" rel="nofollow">The Great Biofuel Hoax of 2008</a>). </p>
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		<title>By: factchecker</title>
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		<dc:creator>factchecker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello!! Your assumptions are pretty far off the mark.  
1. The corn ethanol business is not &quot;rapidly growing&quot;; it grew rapidly in 2006, stagnated in 2007 and has actually slid backward in 2008 as plants were put on hold and production reduced. 
2. More acres are not being planted to corn. In fact, many farmers in the U.S. did in 2008 what they do every year; they rotated acres. Soybeans and wheat gained; corn lost. 
3. The price of corn is only very marginally a player in higher food prices, because raw materials are a small part of any food cost. If raw materials are the problem, why are all the major food manufacturing and retail grocery companies reporting quarter after quarter of record profits? 
4. What &quot;land rush?&quot; Where? The number of acres planted to crops of some kind hasn&#039;t gone up; in fact it&#039;s gone down steadily every year for decades because of urban sprawl. Values of gone up rapidly _ but in a pattern strikingly similar to previous agriculture booms in the 70s and 90s when there was no ethanol factor. In fact, the Kansas City Federal Reserve is already warning that soaring costs of production threaten to &quot;bust&quot; land values and predicting that values will fall as fast or faster than they rose. 
5. Most of the cheap products in the world are cheap because of labor abuse. Clothing from Maylasia and Vietnam and China, automobiles from Korea, trinkets from the third world. Why is cane somehow more horrible? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello!! Your assumptions are pretty far off the mark. </p>
<p>1. The corn ethanol business is not &quot;rapidly growing&quot;; it grew rapidly in 2006, stagnated in 2007 and has actually slid backward in 2008 as plants were put on hold and production reduced.</p>
<p>2. More acres are not being planted to corn. In fact, many farmers in the U.S. did in 2008 what they do every year; they rotated acres. Soybeans and wheat gained; corn lost.</p>
<p>3. The price of corn is only very marginally a player in higher food prices, because raw materials are a small part of any food cost. If raw materials are the problem, why are all the major food manufacturing and retail grocery companies reporting quarter after quarter of record profits?</p>
<p>4. What &quot;land rush?&quot; Where? The number of acres planted to crops of some kind hasn&#039;t gone up; in fact it&#039;s gone down steadily every year for decades because of urban sprawl. Values of gone up rapidly _ but in a pattern strikingly similar to previous agriculture booms in the 70s and 90s when there was no ethanol factor. In fact, the Kansas City Federal Reserve is already warning that soaring costs of production threaten to &quot;bust&quot; land values and predicting that values will fall as fast or faster than they rose.</p>
<p>5. Most of the cheap products in the world are cheap because of labor abuse. Clothing from Maylasia and Vietnam and China, automobiles from Korea, trinkets from the third world. Why is cane somehow more horrible? </p>
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		<title>By: Charlie Peters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie Peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About 60,000 barrels per day of the oil used by cars is allowed by the &quot;renewable fuel&quot; CAFE credit </description>
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		<title>By: Charlie Peters</title>
		<link>http://redgreenandblue.org/2008/07/28/brazilian-ethanol-is-it-more-efficient-or-less-mechanized/comment-page-1/#comment-4163</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie Peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An ethanol waiver would stop a $1 billion California oil refinery welfare program coming from the federal government @ $0.51 per gallon of ethanol used </description>
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