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“Professional woman” has it right. Palin showed she is made of good stuff. I will never understand women who turn on their own offspring and kill them because they are inconvenient… liberals call it choice, but it is murder.
Who won the “debate” depends on what standards are used to decide. Are we talking about who articulated their positions better? Are we talking about who swayed more individuals to his/her side than the other?
With just those 2 standards, I score it:
1. Biden over Palin, slightly
2. Tie
Both candidates exaggerated/told outright falsehoods. It doesn’t matter who told more, because there really is no way to determine that objectively.
Palin did a much better job than Biden as a politician, which is why I scored higher for Biden for no 1.
And, then there is the “bias” factor. Most individuals who scored this “debate” undoubtedly scored it based on their own political biases.
But, in the end, who won the debate doesn’t matter as much as who is better to lead this country should the presidential candidate they serve as VP under die.
Neither, I’d favor of Biden based on his experience. It is really sad that in 2008 we are virtually scraping the bottom of the barrel for presidential and vice presidential candidates. Now, I am not saying any of them are bad people. I’d gamble with McCain. I’d have a drink with Joe. I’d run with Obama. And I’d date Palin if she were single.
But to let any of them be in charge of our country–no way.
Can you say “style over substance?” That seems to be the mantra of liberals for the last twenty years. Somebody who is a good speaker but a bad person (BJ Clinton for example) is better than a good person who stumbles in speech. I say it’s the Hollywood influence. Liberals make fun of Palin’s faith, as though bringing God into your choices is foolish or weak, yet they are swayed, maybe even guided by people like Oprah Winfrey. Remember libs… Hitler was a great speaker too, but even liberals would not call him a decent person. And no… I’m not comparing Clinton or Obama or Biden to Hitler, but the analogy is a good one. Inexperience, ala Obama, is deadly. Suave is not enough.
re: AJ Drew
So what I am hearing is that Oprah Winfrey is un-Godly and kinda like Hitler? Is that what you are saying? Cuz that is a message I can get behind!
Wow. Thomas, Brittney, Gary-Paul..you guys are obviously informed and intelligent in your observations. Hopefully, the others are just not educated in the truth of the matter and make their judgments on the very emotions that the Palin camp (ie. Rove/ Bushcamp) orchestrated for her. She is woefully inept in this position but like GW Bush, relies on her folksey charm (we call it BUSHit in Texas) and guess what Danette et al bought it hook line and sinker. Hopefully, before voting time, they will educate themselves. i mean, come On, The Maverick has been a sheep for Eight years!!! She left her hometown 20+ million$ debt after only 6 years!!!. Figure it out!!
A good place to start: Youtube’s McCain VS McCain is enlightening. McCain is a fun guy, but weak and shallow…Palin is shallow, too, but cut throat in her successes. If they win, America deserves what they will get. Dear God, Please Help us All…..
I believe ignorance is the biggest commodity in America and if anyone actually knew the facts, they would have known that 75% of what Biden was saying was lies. He stayed on the defense the whole night. The biggest lie was the taxes. 94 times Barack voted to raise taxes, Biden voted for the biggest tax increase in history, they proposed capital gains taxes increases and so on. This impacts everybody. The “95% 0f you won’t be affected” is a bunch of crap. Oh and what about Barack was warning about sub prime mortgages….hmmmm if someone can produce that, I will give you $100. America needs to do their homework. I can understand your stance on Palin as she may be a Washington newbie, but at least she’s honest. All you have to do is look at her track record. She actually cares about the people and not just a bunch of politician talk.
Jennifer-
While I agree with your basic premise about the danger of ignorance, it is even more dangerous when it is coupled with blind faith.
Let me explain. As much as it pains me to do so, I will, on occasion, listen to Rush Limbaugh on the radio. In fact, I just listened to him today (Friday, October 3, 2008). That is why I know that three quarters of your comment was lifted almost verbatim from a remark he made today when a gentleman from Pennsylvania called in.
In terms of Governor Palin, I don’t think anyone is questioning whether she cares greatly cares about the people, but we need more than care and good intentions heading-up the offices of the executive branch.
Tim,
I do listen to Rush Limbaugh and I do get my awareness from him, on the contrary I must go on to say that the only thing I quoted was “I believe ignorance is the biggest commodity” (7 words). He has said that on his show many times before and anyone who listens to him is familiar with that fraise. I cannot believe you are trying to imply that my statement was lifted from him – unbelievable .I am sure you know that facts can be easily accessed, and statements can be verified. As far the rest of my statement regarding taxes -that was not apart of their conversation that he had with the caller from PA.
Nevertheless that does not change anything that I said. For the people who check their facts, they will know that Biden told lies with such ease and control. He constantly contorted facts. Whether it was misrepresenting the Constitution or the costs of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, Reagan tax rates, the bailout … should I go on? Biden misrepresented facts.
Obama has failed to lead during the financial meltdown and he also has A shady background. http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=13981.
Just to clear the air, here is verbatim what Rush Limbaugh said “I keep telling people: The most expensive commodity we have in this country is ignorance. The most expensive commodity we have is the ignorance of way too many Americans. It is ignorance that allows liberalism to prosper.” And with that said people can draw their own conclusion. Not one word about taxes.
This whole thing just shows how out of touch so many Americans are about world affairs and the sorry state of this country. We have the corporate (only 5 of them acutally)owned media choosing who should run. When honest people like (R)Ron Paul and (D)Dennis Kucinch can’t get a fair shake - it is terrible. But we get Obama vs. Bush - sorry, McCain. And here we have a person running for the second highest office in the land and she is absolutely clueless about everything. How can people think she won a debate where she didn’t answer most of the questions asked of her and asked for more power for an office she doesn’t have yet? America wake up and smell the coffe! It stinks!