Comments on: The U.S. Navy Doesn’t “Save the Whales” http://redgreenandblue.org/2008/10/08/the-us-navy-doesnt-save-the-whales/ Patriotism that loves our country, our land, and our planet Tue, 14 Feb 2012 00:35:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: US Supreme Court Sides With Navy In Whales Sonar Case : Red, Green, and Blue http://redgreenandblue.org/2008/10/08/the-us-navy-doesnt-save-the-whales/comment-page-1/#comment-13316 US Supreme Court Sides With Navy In Whales Sonar Case : Red, Green, and Blue Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:15:34 +0000 http://redgreenandblue.org/?p=1265#comment-13316 [...] decision is a major setback for environmentalists, who had hoped the Court would uphold an earlier injunction by a federal judge requiring the navy to take precautions while undertaking su.... Environmental groups originally launched the lawsuit claiming that the use of sonar can injure or [...] [...] decision is a major setback for environmentalists, who had hoped the Court would uphold an earlier injunction by a federal judge requiring the navy to take precautions while undertaking su…. Environmental groups originally launched the lawsuit claiming that the use of sonar can injure or [...]

]]> By: derekjackson http://redgreenandblue.org/2008/10/08/the-us-navy-doesnt-save-the-whales/comment-page-1/#comment-9733 derekjackson Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:15:04 +0000 http://redgreenandblue.org/?p=1265#comment-9733 What an air-headed assessment. First off, if we don't use sonar, we don't have any use for submarines. If we do away with submarines, something tells me both the Chinese and the Russians will not observe our new ban. Fortunately for them, we will never know if they honor the ban, because it would take submarines with sonar to police the ban. I guess we could take their word for it. Surely, they both would keep their word and not prowl our waters with nuclear tipped missiles. This sounds like something we can expect to hear from an Obama administration. What an air-headed assessment. First off, if we don't use sonar, we don't have any use for submarines. If we do away with submarines, something tells me both the Chinese and the Russians will not observe our new ban. Fortunately for them, we will never know if they honor the ban, because it would take submarines with sonar to police the ban. I guess we could take their word for it. Surely, they both would keep their word and not prowl our waters with nuclear tipped missiles.

This sounds like something we can expect to hear from an Obama administration.

]]> By: Britt http://redgreenandblue.org/2008/10/08/the-us-navy-doesnt-save-the-whales/comment-page-1/#comment-9674 Britt Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:34:37 +0000 http://redgreenandblue.org/?p=1265#comment-9674 No, they should not be exempt because this is not a immediate issue of national security. If we're actively being attacked, then of course we wouldn't worry about marine life in the area before we deploy sonar, weapons, etc. But in regular training missions? There has to be a more suitable place with fewer animals. They could even just try to work their training around the seasonal migration of most whales and dolphins - when they migrate north in the summer, the Navy could spend more time in southern California. There is substantial evidence that this sonar causes severe damage to the ears and brains of marine mammals, either killing them or throwing off their ability to navigate, which leads to these mass strandings. These animals just fought back from the brink of extinction after whaling - they don't need another roadblock in their way. We don't make environmental regulations just so we can exempt certain parties from them. These rules are in place for a reason - because without them, natural life as we know it would not exist. No, they should not be exempt because this is not a immediate issue of national security. If we're actively being attacked, then of course we wouldn't worry about marine life in the area before we deploy sonar, weapons, etc. But in regular training missions? There has to be a more suitable place with fewer animals. They could even just try to work their training around the seasonal migration of most whales and dolphins – when they migrate north in the summer, the Navy could spend more time in southern California.

There is substantial evidence that this sonar causes severe damage to the ears and brains of marine mammals, either killing them or throwing off their ability to navigate, which leads to these mass strandings. These animals just fought back from the brink of extinction after whaling – they don't need another roadblock in their way.

We don't make environmental regulations just so we can exempt certain parties from them. These rules are in place for a reason – because without them, natural life as we know it would not exist.

]]> By: KAIJU http://redgreenandblue.org/2008/10/08/the-us-navy-doesnt-save-the-whales/comment-page-1/#comment-9673 KAIJU Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:18:50 +0000 http://redgreenandblue.org/?p=1265#comment-9673 What is an almighty creature as opposed to a regular creature? What is an almighty creature as opposed to a regular creature?

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