Comments on: What to do About the Auto Industry? http://redgreenandblue.org/2008/12/20/what-to-do-about-the-auto-industry/ Patriotism that loves our country, our land, and our planet Wed, 23 May 2012 01:08:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: anderson http://redgreenandblue.org/2008/12/20/what-to-do-about-the-auto-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-55035 anderson Sun, 17 May 2009 12:53:10 +0000 http://redgreenandblue.org/?p=1919#comment-55035 I think it might be a good time for the auto industry to stop screwing their customers. It is bad enough that a car looses value as soon as you drive off the lot,but to add insult to injury they over charge for parts and labor.Make cars the way they use to,if you want to fix them your self make it possible to do so .What is wrong with rewarding your customers instead of screwing them for buying your product. Isn,t that the way business should be conducted.Japanese automakers are as bad if not worse than the u.s. I think it might be a good time for the auto industry to stop screwing their customers. It is bad enough that a car looses value as soon as you drive off the lot,but to add insult to injury they over charge for parts and labor.Make cars the way they use to,if you want to fix them your self make it possible to do so .What is wrong with rewarding your customers instead of screwing them for buying your product. Isn,t that the way business should be conducted.Japanese automakers are as bad if not worse than the u.s.

]]> By: Michigan Gov. Granholm Signs Bill for Green Collar Job Training (sort of) : Red, Green, and Blue http://redgreenandblue.org/2008/12/20/what-to-do-about-the-auto-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-19545 Michigan Gov. Granholm Signs Bill for Green Collar Job Training (sort of) : Red, Green, and Blue Mon, 05 Jan 2009 00:12:21 +0000 http://redgreenandblue.org/?p=1919#comment-19545 [...] be as prudent now as it ever has been. It can reasonably be argued that a bailout of the automakers may be necessary to steady the backbone of the American manufacturing sector, but looking beyond the automobile [...] [...] be as prudent now as it ever has been. It can reasonably be argued that a bailout of the automakers may be necessary to steady the backbone of the American manufacturing sector, but looking beyond the automobile [...]

]]> By: Garry G http://redgreenandblue.org/2008/12/20/what-to-do-about-the-auto-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-18423 Garry G Sat, 20 Dec 2008 09:10:32 +0000 http://redgreenandblue.org/?p=1919#comment-18423 Richard Thanks for the post... not sure I see eye to eye on things but am glad that this conversation is spreading around web. I see the industry's problem as how we build cars, not fuel them. So its the design and manufacturing liabilities of the combustion engine that we must address. And it's going to take decades. The industry has an inventory problem and if you expect wind/solar electrons to join the transportation fuel market you must abandon the combustion engine. My hope is that this focus on the combustion engine becomes central the conversation soon... The world needs manufacturing friendly vehicles - scalable, modular energy storage (not convinced batteries are key). That's the first step, IMHO. Wrote a recent post on the two major shifts in the auto industry- energy storage and software. <a href="http://www.theenergyroadmap.com/futureblogger/show/1465-want-to-change-world-accelerate-the-auto-industry-s-convergence-with-energy-software" rel="nofollow">http://www.theenergyroadmap.com/futureblogger/sho...</a> Best Garry Golden Editor The Energy Roadmap.com Richard

Thanks for the post… not sure I see eye to eye on things but am glad that this conversation is spreading around web.

I see the industry's problem as how we build cars, not fuel them. So its the design and manufacturing liabilities of the combustion engine that we must address. And it's going to take decades. The industry has an inventory problem and if you expect wind/solar electrons to join the transportation fuel market you must abandon the combustion engine.

My hope is that this focus on the combustion engine becomes central the conversation soon… The world needs manufacturing friendly vehicles – scalable, modular energy storage (not convinced batteries are key). That's the first step, IMHO.

Wrote a recent post on the two major shifts in the auto industry- energy storage and software.

http://www.theenergyroadmap.com/futureblogger/sho…

Best

Garry Golden

Editor

The Energy Roadmap.com

]]> By: TimeTraveller http://redgreenandblue.org/2008/12/20/what-to-do-about-the-auto-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-18422 TimeTraveller Sat, 20 Dec 2008 08:55:48 +0000 http://redgreenandblue.org/?p=1919#comment-18422 I agree, you've gotta keep the auto industry alive. The thing we don't need is so many more new cars. All that engineering and manufacturing expertise is a valuable resource, and simply being Darwinian and letting them die is bad for everyone. I propose giving them as much money as necessary to keep people working, producing fewer cars, but perhaps, devoting all that infrastructure and expertise to: *keeping older cars running and looking good *creating conversion kits and energy saving enhancements for cars already on the road *of course creating and building more expensive but more valuable greener cars. *manufacturing items that society needs, such as the above mentioned wind turbines and theer like. Our wealth isn't the amount of dollars or pounds, but in the resources and skills that we have. It would be a crime to have the automakers go bankrupt and lose all that manufacturing capacity. That would be the loss, much more profound than the job losses. I agree, you've gotta keep the auto industry alive. The thing we don't need is so many more new cars.

All that engineering and manufacturing expertise is a valuable resource, and simply being Darwinian and letting them die is bad for everyone.

I propose giving them as much money as necessary to keep people working, producing fewer cars, but perhaps, devoting all that infrastructure and expertise to:

*keeping older cars running and looking good

*creating conversion kits and energy saving

enhancements for cars already on the road

*of course creating and building more expensive

but more valuable greener cars.

*manufacturing items that society needs, such as

the above mentioned wind turbines and theer like.

Our wealth isn't the amount of dollars or pounds, but in the resources and skills that we have. It would be a crime to have the automakers go bankrupt and lose all that manufacturing capacity. That would be the loss, much more profound than the job losses.

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