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	<title>Comments on: EPA Ruling on Global Warming &#8212; Big Changes Are Comming in the Economy</title>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if people really thought that climate change was a cyclical phenomenon or was caused by &quot;sun spots&quot;, there is no doubt that ocean acidification caused by Co2 absorption is an enormous threat to the marine food chain and thus all life in the ocean. It is becoming so acidic that the shells of tiny crustaceans are being dissolved. Do these same folks conclude that is is safe to continue to spew toxic pollution into our air and our ocean indefinitely? Seems like a desperate attempt to protect the dominant religion of our age-- economic growth. It is time to put the economy in it&#039;s place-- it is not the source of life but merely a wholly owned subsidiary of the biosphere. It doesn&#039;t take complex graphics or computer models to feel confident about this. Just open your eyes. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if people really thought that climate change was a cyclical phenomenon or was caused by &quot;sun spots&quot;, there is no doubt that ocean acidification caused by Co2 absorption is an enormous threat to the marine food chain and thus all life in the ocean. It is becoming so acidic that the shells of tiny crustaceans are being dissolved. Do these same folks conclude that is is safe to continue to spew toxic pollution into our air and our ocean indefinitely? Seems like a desperate attempt to protect the dominant religion of our age&#8211; economic growth. It is time to put the economy in it&#039;s place&#8211; it is not the source of life but merely a wholly owned subsidiary of the biosphere. It doesn&#039;t take complex graphics or computer models to feel confident about this. Just open your eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: Rmoen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rmoen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 09:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the past 15 years I believed global warming was caused by CO2.  Now, I&#039;m not so sure. It&#039;s looking more and more to be a natural phenomenon to me. 
 
My interest in global warming and energy policy is so great I launched &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.energyplanusa.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.energyplanusa.com&lt;/a&gt;.  I&#039;ve waded through the wellspring of man-made global warming theory, the United Nation&#039;s IPCC reports, and conclude they lack the &#039;smoking gun&#039; that proves global warming is man-made.  The reports are jargoned-up and rely heavily on computer models that have not proven terribly prescient (similar, I&#039;m afraid, to the ones that predicted the American economy was a perpetual motion machine).  Most importantly man-made global warming theory ignores the fact that the earth cooled from the 1940s to 1970s, when CO2 was on the increase.  It also ignores evidence from reliable studies. For instance, it&#039;s widely understood that the globe was warmer 1,000 years ago, when CO2 levels were normal, then it is today.  Then, Vikings grew grapes in New Foundland and even named it Vinland. There are many examples of the Medieval Warming period, plus Roman Warming period, that need to be reconciled--not ignored--by man-made global warming proponents if they want me back in the fold. 
 
I&#039;m dismayed that my own party, the Democrats, the thinkers, have turned a scientific issue into religious zealotry where faith trumps facts.  I&#039;m also dismayed that the American press seems content with publishing hearsay, without backing up conclusions and presumptions with facts and evidence. Please, help me get at the truth. If  anyone can provide the C02 smoking gun, I&#039;d be greatly indebted. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the past 15 years I believed global warming was caused by CO2.  Now, I&#039;m not so sure. It&#039;s looking more and more to be a natural phenomenon to me.</p>
<p>My interest in global warming and energy policy is so great I launched <a href="http://www.energyplanusa.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.energyplanusa.com</a>.  I&#039;ve waded through the wellspring of man-made global warming theory, the United Nation&#039;s IPCC reports, and conclude they lack the &#039;smoking gun&#039; that proves global warming is man-made.  The reports are jargoned-up and rely heavily on computer models that have not proven terribly prescient (similar, I&#039;m afraid, to the ones that predicted the American economy was a perpetual motion machine).  Most importantly man-made global warming theory ignores the fact that the earth cooled from the 1940s to 1970s, when CO2 was on the increase.  It also ignores evidence from reliable studies. For instance, it&#039;s widely understood that the globe was warmer 1,000 years ago, when CO2 levels were normal, then it is today.  Then, Vikings grew grapes in New Foundland and even named it Vinland. There are many examples of the Medieval Warming period, plus Roman Warming period, that need to be reconciled&#8211;not ignored&#8211;by man-made global warming proponents if they want me back in the fold.</p>
<p>I&#039;m dismayed that my own party, the Democrats, the thinkers, have turned a scientific issue into religious zealotry where faith trumps facts.  I&#039;m also dismayed that the American press seems content with publishing hearsay, without backing up conclusions and presumptions with facts and evidence. Please, help me get at the truth. If  anyone can provide the C02 smoking gun, I&#039;d be greatly indebted.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 03:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please take the time to look at the raw, unfiltered data regarding the earth&#8217;s climate. The global temperature trend since 1998 is down, not up. Global sea ice extent is above average. Sea level rise has stabilized. Look at the satellite data for each of these indicators of global climate change.  
 
Climate changes more extreme than we saw in the 20th century have occurred before humans started causing CO2 levels to rise.  Don&#8217;t be fooled, the disaster predictions are wrong. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please take the time to look at the raw, unfiltered data regarding the earth&rsquo;s climate. The global temperature trend since 1998 is down, not up. Global sea ice extent is above average. Sea level rise has stabilized. Look at the satellite data for each of these indicators of global climate change. </p>
<p>Climate changes more extreme than we saw in the 20th century have occurred before humans started causing CO2 levels to rise.  Don&rsquo;t be fooled, the disaster predictions are wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Pangburn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Pangburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 03:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Science (the part that many Climate Scientists are unaware of) shows that this will have no significant effect on climate. Economics predicts a devastating effect on prosperity. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Science (the part that many Climate Scientists are unaware of) shows that this will have no significant effect on climate. Economics predicts a devastating effect on prosperity.</p>
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		<title>By: Noel S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noel S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 02:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This will cause massive employment in long term sustainable green jobs that will stimulate the economy. 
Massive savings in the health sector, a more productive workforce is a healthy workforce. It will be great for global cooperation with the US on all sorts of other issues. Fantastic decision. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This will cause massive employment in long term sustainable green jobs that will stimulate the economy.</p>
<p>Massive savings in the health sector, a more productive workforce is a healthy workforce. It will be great for global cooperation with the US on all sorts of other issues. Fantastic decision.</p>
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		<title>By: hsr0601</title>
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		<dc:creator>hsr0601</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 01:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess the diseases  the exact causes of which are undisclosed such as cancer, allergy, autism, and more, might take root in environment toxins in the air, water, food. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the diseases  the exact causes of which are undisclosed such as cancer, allergy, autism, and more, might take root in environment toxins in the air, water, food.</p>
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		<title>By: Chrissy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chrissy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome.  Whether the skeptics like it or not, the science shows that this is needed.   
 
I for one am celebrating this move by the EPA. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome.  Whether the skeptics like it or not, the science shows that this is needed.  </p>
<p>I for one am celebrating this move by the EPA.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob McCarty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob McCarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not a good thing.  It will ruin our economy. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not a good thing.  It will ruin our economy.</p>
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		<title>By: larrydalooza</title>
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		<dc:creator>larrydalooza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all aboard the crazy  train... woo woo... chugga chugga... woo woo </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all aboard the crazy  train&#8230; woo woo&#8230; chugga chugga&#8230; woo woo</p>
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