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		<title>By: BB</title>
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		<dc:creator>BB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 19:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey - have a great birthday!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey &#8211; have a great birthday!!</p>
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		<title>By: kevin harrington</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin harrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best brew in America is Sierra Nevada&#039;s Torpedo Ale from Chico, California. 
 
I&#039;d hesitate to recommend this so-called &quot;Extra IPA&quot; to anyone nowadays, since our local distributors find it almost impossible to obtain. 
 
But, if you can get some, you&#039;ll find out why I love it so much. I&#039;ve tasted dozens of hop-heavy microbrews over the past few years...  and Torpedo Ale is definitely the best. 
 
Maybe, if Mr. Obama would serve it at the White House picnic table fest, it would convince the brewery in Chico to start producing more of their golden nectar.  So then, I&#039;d be able to buy some here in Pennsylvania! 
 
Kevin Harrington 
Bausman, PA 
Kharrin@earthlink.com </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best brew in America is Sierra Nevada&#039;s Torpedo Ale from Chico, California.</p>
<p>I&#039;d hesitate to recommend this so-called &quot;Extra IPA&quot; to anyone nowadays, since our local distributors find it almost impossible to obtain.</p>
<p>But, if you can get some, you&#039;ll find out why I love it so much. I&#039;ve tasted dozens of hop-heavy microbrews over the past few years&#8230;  and Torpedo Ale is definitely the best.</p>
<p>Maybe, if Mr. Obama would serve it at the White House picnic table fest, it would convince the brewery in Chico to start producing more of their golden nectar.  So then, I&#039;d be able to buy some here in Pennsylvania!</p>
<p>Kevin Harrington</p>
<p>Bausman, PA</p>
<p><a href="mailto:Kharrin@earthlink.com">Kharrin@earthlink.com</a> </p>
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		<title>By: Joe Walsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Walsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, he&#039;s a busy guy, so I would keep it short and sweet (sweet? Maybe 
Blueberry Ale?). My key points are: 
 
1. The Electric Grid - A smart grid with enhanced demand-side management 
tools, broader distributed generation, and large-scale integration of the 
cleanest and most widely-available domestic renewables are all great goals. 
BUT, we need to offload all of these coal plants now. Push for better 
integration of large-scale hydro power, even that imported from Canada. The 
rest is going to take time, but hydro can be the Trojan Horse. And, if 
utilities and others want to invest in new nuclear capacity, make it happen. 
 
2. Green Spending - Spend less on incentives for customers, and subsidies for 
emerging technologies You want 
to make &quot;clean energy the profitable kind of energy,&quot; use policy to change 
the standards that consumers and industry must meet. With that will 
necessarily come technological change, which is the &quot;egg&quot; to a real renewable 
energy economy&#039;s &quot;chicken.&quot; For example, if fuel efficiency and emissions 
standards rise appreciably, companies that want to sell cars will make them 
cleaner, eventually the market will make less use of oil, consumers will 
have little need for it, and you have used policy to foment organic change. If the investment can be diverted from feed-in tariffs and pie-in-the-sky clean coal pilots to research and development in closing the cost gap for wind and solar through commerical storage, it gets pumped into the economy in a more productive short-term use with greater potential ROI over the long run. 
 
3. Copenhagen - Don&#039;t be fooled by the &quot;none of it means anything without 
China and India buying-in&quot; rhetoric. To arrive in Copenhagen with the 
expectation that the emerging economies are going to agree to anything that 
remotely resembles comprehensive climate change reform is folly. Negotiating 
from a realistic - instead of from a hopeful - position, we should be able 
to leave with something that is evidence of US leadership and commitment to 
the issue, and that has more teeth than Kyoto. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, he&#039;s a busy guy, so I would keep it short and sweet (sweet? Maybe</p>
<p>Blueberry Ale?). My key points are:</p>
<p>1. The Electric Grid &#8211; A smart grid with enhanced demand-side management</p>
<p>tools, broader distributed generation, and large-scale integration of the</p>
<p>cleanest and most widely-available domestic renewables are all great goals.</p>
<p>BUT, we need to offload all of these coal plants now. Push for better</p>
<p>integration of large-scale hydro power, even that imported from Canada. The</p>
<p>rest is going to take time, but hydro can be the Trojan Horse. And, if</p>
<p>utilities and others want to invest in new nuclear capacity, make it happen.</p>
<p>2. Green Spending &#8211; Spend less on incentives for customers, and subsidies for</p>
<p>emerging technologies You want</p>
<p>to make &quot;clean energy the profitable kind of energy,&quot; use policy to change</p>
<p>the standards that consumers and industry must meet. With that will</p>
<p>necessarily come technological change, which is the &quot;egg&quot; to a real renewable</p>
<p>energy economy&#039;s &quot;chicken.&quot; For example, if fuel efficiency and emissions</p>
<p>standards rise appreciably, companies that want to sell cars will make them</p>
<p>cleaner, eventually the market will make less use of oil, consumers will</p>
<p>have little need for it, and you have used policy to foment organic change. If the investment can be diverted from feed-in tariffs and pie-in-the-sky clean coal pilots to research and development in closing the cost gap for wind and solar through commerical storage, it gets pumped into the economy in a more productive short-term use with greater potential ROI over the long run.</p>
<p>3. Copenhagen &#8211; Don&#039;t be fooled by the &quot;none of it means anything without</p>
<p>China and India buying-in&quot; rhetoric. To arrive in Copenhagen with the</p>
<p>expectation that the emerging economies are going to agree to anything that</p>
<p>remotely resembles comprehensive climate change reform is folly. Negotiating</p>
<p>from a realistic &#8211; instead of from a hopeful &#8211; position, we should be able</p>
<p>to leave with something that is evidence of US leadership and commitment to</p>
<p>the issue, and that has more teeth than Kyoto. </p>
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