Comments on: US-China Memorandum on Climate Change a Positive Sign for Copenhagen Talks http://redgreenandblue.org/2009/08/01/us-china-memorandum-on-climate-change-a-positive-sign-for-copenhagen-talks/ Patriotism that loves our country, our land, and our planet Wed, 23 May 2012 01:08:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: eNom reseller http://redgreenandblue.org/2009/08/01/us-china-memorandum-on-climate-change-a-positive-sign-for-copenhagen-talks/comment-page-1/#comment-288915 eNom reseller Sat, 28 May 2011 01:25:04 +0000 http://redgreenandblue.org/?p=3462#comment-288915 Hey, Great post. Please keep it up. Hey, Great post. Please keep it up.

]]> By: Developing Countries Gain Leverage Over Developed Nations Ahead of Copenhagen Talks : Red, Green, and Blue http://redgreenandblue.org/2009/08/01/us-china-memorandum-on-climate-change-a-positive-sign-for-copenhagen-talks/comment-page-1/#comment-72307 Developing Countries Gain Leverage Over Developed Nations Ahead of Copenhagen Talks : Red, Green, and Blue Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:01:30 +0000 http://redgreenandblue.org/?p=3462#comment-72307 [...] law. It also announced short term renewable energy and energy intensity goals in addition to the energy efficiency, clean energy technology and green buildings agreements with the United States. China became the world leader in renewable energy investment and has [...] [...] law. It also announced short term renewable energy and energy intensity goals in addition to the energy efficiency, clean energy technology and green buildings agreements with the United States. China became the world leader in renewable energy investment and has [...]

]]> By: Struggling to Take Clear Stand Indian PM Calls for Consensus Among Government Officials : Red, Green, and Blue http://redgreenandblue.org/2009/08/01/us-china-memorandum-on-climate-change-a-positive-sign-for-copenhagen-talks/comment-page-1/#comment-71474 Struggling to Take Clear Stand Indian PM Calls for Consensus Among Government Officials : Red, Green, and Blue Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:30:19 +0000 http://redgreenandblue.org/?p=3462#comment-71474 [...] events. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s visit to China and the subsequent signing of a memorandum of understanding along with various other deals related to renewable energy, energy efficiency and green buildings [...] [...] events. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s visit to China and the subsequent signing of a memorandum of understanding along with various other deals related to renewable energy, energy efficiency and green buildings [...]

]]> By: Brad Arnold http://redgreenandblue.org/2009/08/01/us-china-memorandum-on-climate-change-a-positive-sign-for-copenhagen-talks/comment-page-1/#comment-62443 Brad Arnold Sun, 02 Aug 2009 22:19:10 +0000 http://redgreenandblue.org/?p=3462#comment-62443 "US-China Memorandum on Climate Change a Positive Sign for Copenhagen Talks" - great optimistic title for an article, but (tragically) completely misleading. There is no way the Copenhagen talks can succeed (unless they fail, but are declared a success), because any carbon diet strategy would be dependent upon clean coal: "The vast majority of new power stations in China and India will be coal-fired; not "may be coal-fired"; will be. So developing carbon capture and storage technology is not optional, it is literally of the essence." --"Breaking the Climate Deadlock," Tony Blair, June 26, 2008 But, Vaclav Smil, an energy expert at the University of Manitoba, has estimated that capturing and burying just 10 percent of the carbon dioxide emitted over a year from coal-fire plants at current rates would require moving volumes of compressed carbon dioxide greater than the total annual flow of oil worldwide -- a massive undertaking requiring decades and trillions of dollars. "Beware of the scale," he stressed." "The alternative (to geoengineering) is the acceptance of a massive natural cull of humanity and a return to an Earth that freely regulates itself but in the hot state." --Dr James Lovelock, August 2008 "US-China Memorandum on Climate Change a Positive Sign for Copenhagen Talks" – great optimistic title for an article, but (tragically) completely misleading. There is no way the Copenhagen talks can succeed (unless they fail, but are declared a success), because any carbon diet strategy would be dependent upon clean coal:

"The vast majority of new power stations in China and India will be coal-fired; not "may be coal-fired"; will be. So developing carbon capture and storage technology is not optional, it is literally of the essence." –"Breaking the Climate Deadlock," Tony Blair, June 26, 2008

But, Vaclav Smil, an energy expert at the University of Manitoba, has estimated that capturing and burying just 10 percent of the carbon dioxide emitted over a year from coal-fire plants at current rates would require moving volumes of compressed carbon dioxide greater than the total annual flow of oil worldwide — a massive undertaking requiring decades and trillions of dollars. "Beware of the scale," he stressed."

"The alternative (to geoengineering) is the acceptance of a massive natural cull of humanity and a return to an Earth that freely regulates itself but in the hot state." –Dr James Lovelock, August 2008

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