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Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:24:50 +0000

[...] Even more recently, one of the (many) lines in the new book SuperFreakonomics that set off a firestorm somewhat offhandedly joined this fray: “Any religion, meanwhile, has its heretics, and global [...]

By: Rmoen

Rmoen — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 09:14:08 +0000

Alan Lawrence-

Thanks for the links. One of the problems you and I face is that there are several historical temperature databases and they all don't portray the same thing. Moreover, ALL temperature databases have had corrective measures applied to them. …to adjust for heat island effects, for instance. We need a Climate Truth Commission to reconcile all databases and corrective measures.

There's been no global warming for a decade, according to the BBC, New York Times and Christian Science Monitor (links follow). Moreover, fewer and fewer Americans believe in man-made global warming, according to new polls. Please join me in my quest for a Climate Truth Commission so we can get at the truth. I'm not a denier, I just feel the fix was in on the IPCC reports.

– Robert Moen, http://www.energyplanUSA.com

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8299079… http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/23/science/earth/2… http://features.csmonitor.com/discoveries/2009/10…

By: Alan Lawrence

Alan Lawrence — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:59:38 +0000

If you want to see a more detailed chart of just the past thirty years, you can look here: http://www.junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/UAHMSUglobe-…

You can still see the upward temperature trend. "Global Cooling" is only apparent when you throw out all other data that lets you see trends. A single decade's worth of data just highlights normal temperature variations that is present in any decade.

By: Alan Lawrence

Alan Lawrence — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:45:19 +0000

Rmoen, it's easy to make facts fit your beliefs when you cherry-pick the facts. Please look at the temperature trends going back to the beginning of the 20th Century: http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/ . Statistical variations can make any small period of time fit your argument. I could choose the decade ending in 1998 show that global temperatures are increasing at an unbelievable rate. No one has done that because it's statistically bogus, just as looking at just the data from 1998 onward is bogus. 1998 was an anomalous year because of the intense El Nino effect -- highest temperatures recorded this century. Any temperatures after that will be lower and look like cooling. If you throw out 1998, you can see temperatures are continuing to follow the upward trend.

By: anon

anon — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:34:57 +0000

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By: Rmoen

Rmoen — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:46:15 +0000

The United States needs our own objective, transparent 'Climate Truth Commission' to think-through global warming.

For twenty years I believed in man-made global warming theory, but the evidence has changed. We've had ten years of warming then ten years of maybe no warming. I blame my confusion on the United Nations for getting too ahead of their facts. They were more concerned about politics and funding than science. Here's a fact they don't discuss: UN forecasts for the last 10 years do not fit what actually happened.

– Robert Moen, http://www.energyplanUSA.com