Election 2012 2012-presidential-debates6

Published on October 16th, 2012 | by Jeremy Bloom

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Second debate: Fact checking Romney’s lies

 

Romney doesn't like being wrong

We’ll try to catch the lies as they go by…

(Watch the debate here. Read the full transcript here. See our post-debate analysis here.)

Romney laughed as he said “Government does not create jobs”.

  • One reason unemployment is still so high is because of the loss of more than 500,000 public sector jobs, cut by cash-strapped states.
  • Defense contractors are freaking out about the so-called “fiscal cliff”, worried that slashed defense budgets would mean they’d have to lay off their workers. Tell those people “Government does not create jobs”.
  • @HalSparks tweets: Mitt Romney says “Government does not create jobs” so put me in charge and i’ll prove it?

Romney lied about 12 million jobs.

  • The economy is already on track to create 12 million jobs with the current policies
  • Romney wants to take credit for 3 million energy jobs that would be created under Obama policies… while saying he would CUT those policies.

Romney lied about wind energy.

  • He wants to eliminate the wind energy tax credit, which will kill thousands of jobs in such states as Iowa and Colorado
  • The Republican Senator from Iowa, Chuck Grassley, says Romney “stabbed him in the back” by opposing the wind energy tax credit.

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Romney lied about gas prices:

  • Gas prices were only low in 2009 because the economy was in the toilet, killing demand. That’s how the free market works.
  • Why are gas prices high even though we’re producing more? Because oil prices are set by the world economy – which Obama can’t control.

Romney lied about oil production being down on public lands.

  • Compared to the last three years of President Bush, there have been 241 million more barrels of oil produced from public lands in the first three years of Obama.

 Obama told the truth about Romney once believing coal was bad.

  • As governor of Massachusetts, he stood in front of a coal plant, pointed at it, and said  “I will not create jobs or hold jobs that kill people”

Romney lied about oil production on public lands being down.

He lied about Bush’s deficits.

  • He correctly said that Obama criticized Bush for running a $500 billion deficit,
  • …but then lied saying Obama had doubled the deficit. The deficit nearly tripled under Bush, to 1.4 trillion. Obama has reduced it.

Romney lied about job creation.

  • He said jobs are down since Obama came in, which is not true. And private sector jobs are way up – it’s public sector jobs loss, from layoffs by cash strapped states, that have been holding back the economy.

Romney lied about his plan being different from Bush’s.

  • As Think Progress put it, “He used the same argument to justify his tax plan that Bush used, an RNC official called Romney’s policies “Bush, just updated,” and a top House Republican has said that Romney’s tax plan follows the Bush “recipe.””

More:

  • There are not 23 million people out of work, no matter how many times Romney repeats it.
  • Romney keeps citing an Obama”promise” to get unemployment down to 5.4 percent – that  is NOT something Obama said – it was a single estimate in one paper from one of Obama’s advisers. Not exactly the same thing.
  • He’s STILL claiming Obama took “an apology tour” to the mideast, which is just total bullshit.
  • On Benghazi, Romney is trying to play bullshit word games, parsing exactly when Obama called it “a terrorist act” to try to show Obama as somehow weak on terror. Both Obama and moderator Candy Crowley call Romney out. And Mitt doesn’t like it – the expression in the picture, above, is his response to Crowley specifically pointing out that the transcript backs up Obama’s story.
  • Romney is bringing up Fast and Furious – a program initiated under the Bush administration, operated by a local office without consulting their superiors; it was fully investigated, and found not to reflect badly on anyone in the Obama administration.
  • On assault weapons, Romney said the only reason he signed an assault weapon ban as governor was because both sides came together, so everyone got something they wanted. In fact, he was opposed to assault weapons, a direct reversal of where he stands now. Here’s what he said at the time: “I believe the people should have the right to bear arms, but I don’t believe that we have to have assault weapons as part of our personal arsenal.”
  • He keeps repeating that “half the kids graduating from college can’t find work”, which is totally not true (it’s about 25%, which is not that far off from the way it is in normal times).

(Image by @stillonline via twitpic)

 





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Jeremy Bloom is the Editor of RedGreenAndBlue. He just moved to Los Angeles, and continues trying to change the world in positive ways.



  • John

    That’s right, the President doesn’t lie. And they’re both morons.

  • Ed

    Jeremy , you can spin and lie all you want , but Romney won that debate and exposed the disaster that is Obama and only someone like Romney, A REAL AMERICAN BUSINESS MAN, can and will turn things around . Socialism has not worked so lets get back to super-charging our economy with hard work and our capitalism while we still may have time .

    • Jeremy Bloom

      Sure he’ll do to America what he did for the companies he bought at Bain:
      – Load them up with debt
      – Sell off the assets
      – Outsource what you can to China
      – Run it into bankruptcy, while continuing to pay himself huge “Management fees”.

  • prax26

    “He keeps repeating that “half the kids graduating from college can’t find work”, which is totally not true (it’s about 25%, which is not that far off from the way it is in normal times).” What he said was “half the kids graduating from college can’t find college level work”. Having an engineering degree, and working a fry cook is not “finding a job”

    • prax26

      By the way, I work in career services for a college in Connecticut. Think about that for a few seconds before you reply.

    • Jeremy Bloom

      From the transcript:
      “I know what it takes to get this economy going. With half of college kids graduating this year without a college — excuse me, without a job. And without a college level job, that’s just unacceptable.”
      He shaded it the second time, but how many people do you think will catch that? Most people will hear “half of college graduates without a job”. That’s what I mean by “weasel words”.

  • Fjord Prefect
    • Jeremy Bloom

      Hm. How about “believe independent objective sources” rather than “Believe the GOP”? That seems like a pretty easy one to me.

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